Alundum Stone

    • 15 posts
    September 28, 2012 12:25 PM EDT

    You can use this files:

    http://www.cooksongold.com/Jewellery-Tools/Diamond-Files-Set-Of-5-prcode-999-3801

    or burrs: www.cooksongold.com/Jewellery-Tools/Diamond-Burrs-Med-Set-Of-30-prcode-999-6388

    the best for me is this Diagrit,its quick,easy and you can use it on domed and also flat surface: http://www.cooksongold.com/Enamelling/Diagrit-Coarse-prcode-860-116

    there are coarse,medium and fine Diagrit.

    R.

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    September 29, 2012 6:06 AM EDT

    Alundum- and Carborundum stones works very slowly and it is a hard job. Since more thn 30 years I use for all grinding and polishing work only diamond-tools. To use these are much more quicker and much more hands preserve.

    One can find different diamond-tools. From diamond coated, unflexible metal-files, over flexible pads up to diamond coated wheels and discs in different dimensions, from little discs and milling tools up to large wheels and discs for electrical grinding machines.

    If you want to grind by hand, I recommend Diamond-pads, because they are flexible. By this, the pad-surface adapt to the domed surface of the working area. Prima facie it seems, that the pads are very expensive. But it have a long durability and work much, much quicker than any kind of stones.

    Here one link, where you could buy such pads.

    http://www.diamondtoolstore.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=6&products_id=329&zenid=c896d02613138890270ffa7263302285

    If you google you'll find much more supplier.

    I myself grind and polish my cloisonné-work since more than 30 or 40 years only with electrical tools. To begin I work with a commercial lapidary machine with 4 wheels. Such an equipment is very expensive. So I built a very simple, but effective grinding machine by myself. With this,  grind and polish  I cloisonné work up to a dimension on 10 x 10 inches.

    Here a link to the construction manual.

     

    discussions/1-1000/725-gomkopie.pdf

    Edmund

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    October 5, 2012 12:41 PM EDT

    Thank you Rudolf and Edmund for your replies! I'll be looking at your recommended links within the next few days.

    Sorry for the slow response... life has been nuts around here lately... I'm moving my studio to a warmer part of the house - yeah! Should bring even more productivity to my work. Thanks again.

    Kathy

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    October 22, 2012 8:17 AM EDT

    This is from Edmund how to make low cost polishing machine.

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    October 23, 2012 10:02 AM EDT

    Hallo Rudolf,

    Thanks, that you pointed to the manuscript. I would be interested if anyone has copied the machine. The reproduction is very simple. And grinding and polishing with the machine is so time-saving, bone conserving and easy. I may never grind again with stones or other hand grinding tools.

    Edmund

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    October 23, 2012 6:34 PM EDT

    Sure I will make this machine one dayBut I need buy the diamond belts and other equipment.My friend blacksmith have old fashioned grinding stone like this.Is it very quick to grind metal,maybe also enamel ,but maybe too large for enamel workshop.

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    • 114 posts
    November 5, 2012 10:39 AM EST

    Indian  Jewelers has a great grinding machine - you just have to set up a tube and a bucket to drip water over the wheel above the machine and a catch tray with a drain - My first cloisonné teacher had this set up and I copied it - Indian Jewelers mounted the grinding machine on a board for me and mailed it to me.

    I took a class with Ricky Frank and we used a Foredom flexible shaft and diamond wheels - worked great!

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    May 5, 2013 10:41 AM EDT

    Picking up my old thread here... Thanks for this response Trish. I'm curious to know what size diamond wheels you used, if you remember. I wanted to try this with a flex shaft, and a 22mm diamond disc was recommended with a screw mandrel on a flex shaft. I'm concerned that there wouldn't be enough disc to work with, and the screw part of the shaft would gouge the enamel. Does anyone have comments on this? Thanks...

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    September 28, 2012 9:24 AM EDT

    I'm looking for a faster method of grinding and polishing domed cloisonne enamels. I've been using alundum stone by hand but would like to try some type of rotary machine to make the process go faster. Rio Grande states that alundum "grinds enamels quickly without contaminating glass particles" and this concerns me. Can anyone recommend a safe abrasive/rotary method that they use?