on glaze paints

    • 77 posts
    May 2, 2012 4:56 AM EDT

    All painting-enamels, with the exception of the oxide colors are over glass enamels. It already have the glass formers included. You paint with this painting-enamels on a pre-enameled coating and fire it very careful.  The painting-enamels do not require an extra flux-overlay. Thompson offers a number of painting-enamels such as: acrylic-enamel, watercolor-enamel, and enamel-crayons.

    The difference is, you can not use it direct on metal. And the second difference, it very fine grained so that you can painting it in a very thin layer onto a ready enamelled surface.

    If you “Google Pictures” under the key-words “Painting enamels” or “Enamel-Painting”  ypu’ll find a lot of informations.

    Edmund

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    May 3, 2012 12:14 AM EDT

    Thank you so much Edmund... I have seen acrylic and water enamels in fact on the Thompson catalog but I din't know they could be fired.

    You've been a great help. Greetings and best wishes

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    May 3, 2012 12:16 AM EDT

    Edmund, what do you mean by fire very carefully? shorter time?

    Also, what could be the thinnest gage of copper to be enameled if used for jewellery like pendants and earrings? I have been using 18 and that makes very heavy earrings?

    Thanks again.

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    May 3, 2012 8:16 AM EDT

    Carefully means, watch the painted enamel during the firing. Heat up the kiln to about 750-800 Grad C.  Put the work piece ready dried painting into the kiln. Watch the firing and remove the work piece immediately out of the kiln if the enamel painting is glossy.  Especial

     

    Protect your eyes with eye-protecting glasses or hold a minimum distance to the glowing muffle of about one meter!!

     

    If you the earrings counter-enamel it is sufficient, if you use 24 -22 for brooches about 22-20  gauge sheet, no matter whether you use copper, or what I in jewelry making always prefer, fine-silver.

     

    What I also always recommend:  make a bezel or rim around all jewelry work. It looks not only better, but it protects also the piece before damage especially at the edges.

     

    If you cannot solder, I can, If you want, show you a simple method to make rims without soldering.

    Edmund

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    May 3, 2012 8:17 AM EDT

    Hallo Chris,

    I think you mean the article "Painting with fire". If it is so, "no" that is an other  method. If you look onto the HP of Glass on metal: www.glass-on-metal.com and you search in the page for "Painting Enamel" you'll find an article about the enamel painting method.

    Edmund

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    May 3, 2012 1:12 PM EDT

    Edmund... how does this method of preparing a rim without soldering work?

    Kind regards

    Gabor

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    May 3, 2012 7:24 PM EDT

    Hi Edmund, Three beautiful pieces, broaches? I love the way you put the silver around the leaf-  and the one on the right. Is the one in the middle a pendant? Fabulous shape! I would so much appreciate you teaching me how to do the bezel without soldering. Please let me know how we could do this since I live in Mexico and you live ? where? I agree jewelery is best done on silver but I have not bought any yet. I can do that this friday. What do I buy for the bezel? For cloisonné I bought pure silver and had it wired to I think an 18 thinnes, flat. I would like to cloisonne with a wider  wire, like the one you have on the piece in the middle.

    I'm enjoying our communicating a lot. Please take care and thank you so much for all the trouble you are going through to enlighten me.

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    May 5, 2012 8:02 AM EDT

    Dear Gabor, the description of the technique is part of an almost pre-historic to call manuscript. I wrote it for the participants of my jewelry and enamel courses. The pictures are sometimes very bad. I've tried it with a modern photo program to improve, but unfortunately does not so much. Therefore, I will make some new pictures and the text translate. Then  I'll publish here the deskription.

    Friendly

    Edmund

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    May 5, 2012 8:03 AM EDT

    Hello Alexis, that’s  all earrings. The rims of the left and middle shown earrings are soldered. Only the right shown earring is made without soldering.
    So as I wrote I’ll show you the rim making in the next few days.
    I live in Bavaria/Germany. So we must communicate via Internet.
    The thicker wire in the brooch in the middle is a 1 mm (~18 G) thick round wire. For cloisonné I prefer a flat wire of about 0,2 mm ( ~ 32 G) thickness and 0,8-0,9 mm (~20 G) height. 

    Friendly 

    Edmund

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    May 8, 2012 7:47 AM EDT

    Hi Alexis and hi Gabor,

    so as I promised I loaded up a script: "How to make enamel protecting frames". You'll find it in this forum under " Edge raised framing".
    Many pleasure.
    Edmund

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    May 8, 2012 8:32 AM EDT

    Thank you Edmund for this clear explanation, which will  certainly be  very helpful for many enamelists!

    Gabor

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    May 8, 2012 10:14 AM EDT

    Hallo Gabor and Chris,
    thank you both for your friendly comment. Writing clear working instructions is no problem, because I wrote in all my professional lifetime working instructions. The problem is my English. I fear allways, that the grammar is very idiosyncratic, and that not all people understand what I mean.
    Edmund

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    May 8, 2012 3:01 PM EDT

    Dear Edmund, I found it then I lost it again!

     

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    May 2, 2012 12:01 AM EDT

    Can anyone explain what are on glaze paints? and where to get them? and how to use them? I've been looking all over and have found no info whatsoever. Mer Almagro has a video on on glaze paints, but I cannot find them with any suppliers.

    Thanks a lot

    Alexis

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    October 13, 2015 3:05 PM EDT

      Edmund Massow powiedział: [/ b]

    Hi hi Alexis i Gabor,

    Jak obiecałem tak, že załadowany Skrypt: "Jak zrobić Ramki zabezpieczające szkliwa". Znajdziesz go na Tym forum kapsułę "kadrowania podniesionej krawędzi".
    WIELE przyjemności.
    Edmunda

     

     

    Witaj Edmund. CZY kiedys byl łącza here oo tutorialem?

     


    This post was edited by Leszek Kralka at October 13, 2015 3:07 PM EDT