Pressing against warping method

    • 6 posts
    December 5, 2017 4:44 PM EST
    Ok, so it does rarely happen to me that I either choose a wrong gauge of metal or the counterenamel application is too thick or too thin and the enamel does warp.
    Recently In one of the books (Linda Darty?) about a method of putting a flat steel heavy plate on top of the enamel as soon as its out of the kiln. (And yesterday I even saw this product in riogrande https://www.riogrande.com/product/steel-firing-press-plate/350035 -a steel piece with a handle for almost 50 bucks!). I was very suspicious of the method and feared it wil marr or somehow destroy the surface but decided to give it a try on some old enamel pieces I had. I cleaned the bottom of a very old iron (and very heavy!) iron, warmed it up on top of the kiln , and then put it on top of the enamel from the kiln.
    The result- it did become flat, it didnt ruin the colors in any way, but it cracked a bit each time anyway. So whats the point and what am I doing wrong? Has anyone tried it and had success?
    This post was edited by Anna Margolis at December 6, 2017 12:23 AM EST
    • 25 posts
    December 6, 2017 4:33 AM EST

    I am using two spatulas to put in and to remove the plates from the kiln. Using these tools I can flatten the warped plate by gently pressing the hot plate immediately after removal from the kiln.  

    • 6 posts
    December 6, 2017 6:18 AM EST
    I am not sure I understand: you mean you have one spatula under and one over ? How long do you hold it? No cracking occurs?
    • 25 posts
    December 6, 2017 6:33 AM EST

    No, I am using both spatulas to press down from the the upper side. This is a very short action. If you press it immediately still hot and you don't use strong force, no cracking occurs. 

    • 3 posts
    December 17, 2017 3:45 PM EST

    In the past I had a slab of flat limestone to place hot (still orange or redhot) enamels on ,then I put a heavey metal object on to flatten. No problem with cracking.  John Killmaster.

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    March 15, 2018 10:53 PM EDT

    Doesnt the enamel stick to the limestone?

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    March 16, 2018 2:47 AM EDT

    No it doesn't stick since it is rapidly cooling and the stone is not the kind of stone that can be enameled, although I do enamel lava rocks.  You can press it on concrete instead if it's not painted.

    • 5 posts
    March 17, 2018 4:50 PM EDT

    I am very, new to enameling.  This is the one thing I'm struggling with....constantly!  I torch my enamel.  I tried flattening but it cracked it.  Using over a mm thick copper.....does it need to be a heavier gauge?  Help!

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    March 17, 2018 5:05 PM EDT

    A heavier gauge will stay flatter, or switch to steel which has less warpage.

     

    • 5 posts
    March 17, 2018 5:16 PM EDT

    OK.  I need to do some research on steel as I'm set up for copper.  What gauge do you recommend if I stay with copper?  Thank you so very much for the help!

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    • 114 posts
    March 18, 2018 12:49 PM EDT

    I like to use 18 gauge - 20 gauge copper

    18g. = 1.02mm

    20g. = 0.812

    You may not have enough support under the metal and/or your flame is too hot. There are Torch firing Tutorials in Groups section made by Chris Hierholzer - the master of Torch Firing - 

    Also you may not be using enough counter enamel on the back - As the metal and enamels cool, they are moving- both sides have to be of equal layers to keep the cooling metal balanced - think of an oreo cookie - top and bottom are the enamel layers - metal in between - 

    When you have warpage, quickly pick up the piece with tweezers, place on a fire proof surface and place an iron on top - this must be done quickly as the cooling takes place quickly - the weight of the iron will flatten your piece -Do Not press down -  I have bought the vintage heavy cast irons at flea markets for a few dollars -  I keep it by my kiln at all times.

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    March 20, 2018 6:02 PM EDT

    I just happen to have a very heavy old iron.  Worked like a charm!  Warped on the counter enamel but when I did the first fire of the front I used the iron.  I heard a couple cracks but couldn't find them once it cooled!  Flat as a pancake!!  Thanks!

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    • 114 posts
    March 21, 2018 8:30 AM EDT

    Cha Ching!