Gems under enamel?

  • January 29, 2019 6:24 PM EST

    Has anyone tried firing gems like cubic zirconium or synthetic ruby under enamel?

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    January 30, 2019 8:14 AM EST

    That is a very good question Henry!! I will have to ask my colleagues and get back to you.

  • January 30, 2019 12:21 PM EST

    Thanks, Trish.

    I'm going to do some experimentation on my own as well and will report back.

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    February 13, 2019 1:46 PM EST

    I've haven't tried it myself but have seen Cubic Z done with very good success.

  • February 15, 2019 1:54 PM EST
    Tig Lichty said:

    I've haven't tried it myself but have seen Cubic Z done with very good success.

    Can you point me to some examples online?

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    March 11, 2019 7:28 PM EDT

    Hi Henry, If you are a member of Merry-Lee Rae's Facebook page there are images there of people doing it with success.  It's a private group, though, so if you are not a member you will not see the images. I went way back and found one for you to see.  The image is of 2x Cubic Z's that were fired into the enamel.

  • March 12, 2019 2:35 PM EDT

    Thanks, Tig.

    I don't have facebook but I looked up  Merry-Lee Rae.  What beautiful work she does!  In this image  the stones actually under the enamel or are their tables above the surface?  Hard to tell from the image.

    I did an experiment yesterday and did fire a CZ under some transparent blue enamel.  The first firing worked great.  You could see the gemstone under the enamel.  It turned the stone blue.  I added more enamel for a second firing.  It didn't take much to obscure the stone.  My takeaway - the enamel on top of the stone must be pretty thin!

     

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    May 29, 2019 4:03 PM EDT

    CZ is ok. Quartz-based stones will hold but can discolour (for instance, amethyst or citrine will turn clear). Ruby/sapphire will cause stress. The key point is whether the thermal expansion coefficient of your stone is similar to enamel.