Crinkly silver foil on copper

    • 7 posts
    October 22, 2019 7:07 PM EDT
    Hi everyone,

    I hope your week is going well.

    Does anyone know how to make silver foil on a copper base, have an extra crinkly/textured appearance? almost like its been scrunched into a ball and smoothed out? It’s something I’ve seen beneath the cloisonné of some beautiful pieces and I’d love to be able to do it.

    • 77 posts
    October 24, 2019 10:29 AM EDT

    Place the foil between 2 pieces of thin paper and form the sandwhich into a ball. Fold the ball apart and smooth the foil slightly. You get a beautiful curled silver foil

    • 7 posts
    October 25, 2019 11:18 AM EDT
    Such a simple solution! Thanks so much. I will give this a try.

    Nothando
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    • 114 posts
    October 25, 2019 5:35 PM EDT

    WOW! Thank you Edmund - I was thinking along those lines but couldn't figure out how to unball the fine foil-

    Never too old to learn something new.

    Thanks,

    Trish

    • 77 posts
    October 26, 2019 9:28 AM EDT

    Silverfoil crinkle

    1) Lay the foil between 2 sheets of paper so that a paper-foil-paper sandwich is created.

    2) Squeeze the foil into a ball, the tighter the ball is compressed, the more the foil is crumpled.

     

     

    4) Remove the foil. To get the foil flat, swipe directly over the foil with a soft kitchen paper towel without pressure.

    5) Moisten the pre-enameled work-piece with some water or adhesive.

    6) Apply the foil to the work-piece and press the foil well with a kitchen paper towel to the enameled surface. Do not use paper handkerchiefs as it contains often oil or grease.

    7) Allow the water or adhesive to dry well.

    8) Fire the work-piece.

    9) After cooling, press the foil again well to the enamel surface. If there are cavities under the foil, the foil can melt in these places during further processing.

    Finally, a tip. For example, if you use silk paper in place of writing paper, the creases become finer.

    Another way to roughen foil very finely.

    1) Place a piece of silver foil on a coarse sheet of sanding paper. Grit at least around 60 or coarser

    2) Aplay a piece of semi-hard rubber, for example moss-rubber on the foil and, for example, hit it with a rubber hammer or the like without any force on the rubber surface.

    3) Here on the right side of the silver foil you can see the result. A very finely structured surface.
    By hammering or press the silver foil to the rough sanding paper surface, the foil gets a little hooked into the abrasive grains. Therefore, it is necessary to remove the silver foil slowly and carefully after the process.

    Good luck and fun

    Edmund

     

     

     

     


    This post was edited by Edmund Massow at October 26, 2019 9:30 AM EDT
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    October 26, 2019 3:48 PM EDT
    Thanks so much for taking the time to make these instructions for us!
    I’ve tried making a sample with the crumpling method with successNext time I’ll try the rubber method.
    Thanks again.
    • 77 posts
    October 29, 2019 2:50 PM EDT

    Hi,

    On the basis of a request here a supplement.

    If a fault occurs when the silver foil is fired, it can be easily repaired.

    Tear a piece of foil so in form, that it is slightly larger than the defect. (Picture 2 at the top left). If the film is cut instead of ripping (figure 2 at the bottom left), the cutting edges may be visible after the fire.

    Moisten the defect place with a little adhesive water and glue the torn foil above the defect.

    Allow adhesive water to evaporate.

    Fire theWorkpiece.

    The flaw is virtually invisible after enamelling..

    Have fun

    Edmund

     

     

     

     

    • 59 posts
    November 18, 2019 4:28 PM EST

    Edmund you are my master :-) Super repair method.
    Thank you

    • 77 posts
    November 20, 2019 9:12 AM EST

    Dear Lescek, thank you for the compliment. In the meantime, you have long since overtaken me. Your cloisonné-style watch-blades are perfect, and in Guilloche-style art is no one better as you.  I am proud that I was be free to accompany your first steps.
    best regards
    Edmund

    • 59 posts
    January 13, 2020 2:57 PM EST
    Edmund Massow said:

    Dear Lescek, thank you for the compliment. In the meantime, you have long since overtaken me. Your cloisonné-style watch-blades are perfect, and in Guilloche-style art is no one better as you.  I am proud that I was be free to accompany your first steps.
    best regards
    Edmund

     

    Dear friend - you will always be my master. I don't make cloisonne enamels because I can't afford silver and enamel. Now I engrave more - I like it too. I wish you health my friend.

     

     

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    January 14, 2020 9:04 AM EST

    Dear Lesceck, nice to hear from you again. One don't have also to do everything which are possible. You are a big master in champlevé and guilloche. And only very few people master this techniques!
    Best regards in friendship

    Edmund