i have been making small cloissonie pendants recently....i use to first fire my peice with flux and den place the wires and refire.i use to get perfect results. Now i started to make some more peice with the same process, but as i do my first fire now, my peice is full of black burnt spots after my first fire.....i see to it that my peice is oil free and clean....still i m facing this problem....when i started...my first two peices were perfect and this problem started from the third peice and still is on...
i have been using the same furnace and trivet previously also....
i have attached 1 picture, though its not very clear, still my problem can b understud.
plzzz guide me where m i goin wrong.....
i really need to know....because this is first time, i m facing such an issue....
thank you.....waiting for replies.......
i have been making small cloissonie pendants recently....i use to first fire my peice with flux and den place the wires and refire.i use to get perfect results. Now i started to make some more peice with the same process, but as i do my first fire now, my peice is full of black burnt spots after my first fire.....i see to it that my peice is oil free and clean....still i m facing this problem....when i started...my first two peices were perfect and this problem started from the third peice and still is on...
i have been using the same furnace and trivet previously also....
i have attached 1 picture, though its not very clear, still my problem can b understud.
plzzz guide me where m i goin wrong.....
i really need to know....because this is first time, i m facing such an issue....
thank you.....waiting for replies.......
The reason could be
1) the on sieved enamel shift was too thin
2) the firing time was too short
3) the firing temperature was to low.
So as the picture looks, (next the spots the flux is not realy clear) I think number 2 and 3 are the cause in this case. Fire a bit hotter and if nescessary, fire a bit longer.
edmund
The reason could be
1) the on sieved enamel shift was too thin
2) the firing time was too short
3) the firing temperature was to low.
So as the picture looks, (next the spots the flux is not realy clear) I think number 2 and 3 are the cause in this case. Fire a bit hotter and if nescessary, fire a bit longer.
edmund
thankx for d reply....il jus try it again n let u know,but does this kind of things happen if the peice is underfire.....
thankx for d reply....il jus try it again n let u know,but does this kind of things happen if the peice is underfire.....
Hi Aarti,
It looks to me like your first coating was too thin and perhaps with all the dots I see, not dry enough before it went into the kiln. Many times if the klyr fire has not dried thoroughly, it will cause little bursts of bubbles on the surface. So sift a nice layer across the top- make sure you don't see any metal through the sifted glass, then place on top of the kiln to dry thoroughly before firing.
Hi Aarti,
It looks to me like your first coating was too thin and perhaps with all the dots I see, not dry enough before it went into the kiln. Many times if the klyr fire has not dried thoroughly, it will cause little bursts of bubbles on the surface. So sift a nice layer across the top- make sure you don't see any metal through the sifted glass, then place on top of the kiln to dry thoroughly before firing.
Trish's argumentation is right. You must dry the piece before firing very well. But if it into the kiln comes wet, one gets realy little explosions in the kiln. The black areas are mostly bigger and the outlines are more irregular. The "spots" are not so round.
Trish's argumentation is right. You must dry the piece before firing very well. But if it into the kiln comes wet, one gets realy little explosions in the kiln. The black areas are mostly bigger and the outlines are more irregular. The "spots" are not so round.
thanks a lot edmund and trish....as edmund had told me to do a thick layer of flux and give it good fire....on doing so...i acheived desired results with no such black spots.
i later realised that the seve i was using was of very fine mesh, and so i was actually doin a thin layer.
thanks for the replies...it really helped me.
thanks a lot edmund and trish....as edmund had told me to do a thick layer of flux and give it good fire....on doing so...i acheived desired results with no such black spots.
i later realised that the seve i was using was of very fine mesh, and so i was actually doin a thin layer.
thanks for the replies...it really helped me.
Hi Aarti, It is problem of glue which you are using. I know recently you are using
Hi Aarti, I understand it is problem of glue. I know recently you have started using CMC. This is a very strong type of glue and should be used very dilute. Remember if you have prepared fresh glue for your latest work. If yes it is 100% glue problem as everyone guessing. Preparing glue from powder CMC must be kept overnight. Than dilute it. It is better you keep a record how much powder you are taking & how much water you are mixing. When you get to know a proper proportion keep a record and follow the same for future use. Enameling is like horse riding, initially horse will kick you but when it becomes friendly will invite you for a ride. These are initial problems and you will overcome very soon. I suggest not to use glue all the time. use where it is required. Regards
Hi Aarti, It is problem of glue which you are using. I know recently you are using
Hi Aarti, I understand it is problem of glue. I know recently you have started using CMC. This is a very strong type of glue and should be used very dilute. Remember if you have prepared fresh glue for your latest work. If yes it is 100% glue problem as everyone guessing. Preparing glue from powder CMC must be kept overnight. Than dilute it. It is better you keep a record how much powder you are taking & how much water you are mixing. When you get to know a proper proportion keep a record and follow the same for future use. Enameling is like horse riding, initially horse will kick you but when it becomes friendly will invite you for a ride. These are initial problems and you will overcome very soon. I suggest not to use glue all the time. use where it is required. Regards