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  Charles Winkel: Clean it the same way you would clean cold rolled. GC-16 will work fine if the cleaning was performed the same way as cold. The steel your using will be more brittle then cold. Take care forming because it will tear easer then cold. It hasn't been...  moreClean it the same way you would clean cold rolled. GC-16 will work fine if the cleaning was performed the same way as cold. The steel your using will be more brittle then cold. Take care forming because it will tear easer then cold. It hasn't been tempered as cold. It wall work fine. I use 20 and 22 gage it better for forming. I use 18 gage foe flat work It's extremely hard to form, and hard an the arm shoulder and wrest due to how hard you will have hammer to form the steel. But to answer you question. Clean the steel as to my instructions and you will not have trouble with GC-16.  less

  August 30, 2018

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    Debra Montgomery Hi! Thanks for your reply! Long story short, this job was delayed and I did not get any time to do any practice pieces or anything before I just needed to get this job finished. I ended up using 10 ga steel - I should have noted that in my previous...  moreHi! Thanks for your reply! Long story short, this job was delayed and I did not get any time to do any practice pieces or anything before I just needed to get this job finished. I ended up using 10 ga steel - I should have noted that in my previous post. I think if I am going to continue to use thicker steel like this I need to learn how to enamel using the forge as well as the smaller or thinner metal in the kiln. I ultimately decided this time to change course on the coloration of the leaves on this project because I feel like I need to get more instruction and...    less

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    Charles Winkel I use 18 gage and larger for back plate only. The steel is to hard to form. Forget about trying to form 10 gage. You can purchase a sheet of steel 4' X 10' for $85.00. I have cut into 2' sections for easer handling. A forge is to hot for this kind of...  moreI use 18 gage and larger for back plate only. The steel is to hard to form. Forget about trying to form 10 gage. You can purchase a sheet of steel 4' X 10' for $85.00. I have cut into 2' sections for easer handling. A forge is to hot for this kind of steel. It will melt it faster then you can blow your nose. Depending on you projects should determine the size of kiln you should get. I built mine some 20-25 years ago. I just replaced all my elements. Mine takes 8 elements and cost me $80.00 dollars each. A lot more then my original cost. Building your own might be a...    less

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    Debra Montgomery Hi - thanks again for your input. I lucked out and was able to pick up an older Vcella kiln through Judy Stone. It’s a big one with a 24” x 24” opening. All we had to do was refresh the wiring and it works great so far! The material I have...  moreHi - thanks again for your input. I lucked out and was able to pick up an older Vcella kiln through Judy Stone. It’s a big one with a 24” x 24” opening. All we had to do was refresh the wiring and it works great so far! The material I have been working with is almost 1/8” thick, which is what I made the leaves out of. I primarily work with 32 oz and 48 oz copper for the Copper bowls and Repousse work I do. I’m hoping, going forward, to continue to use the thicker forge-able steel because that’s a big element in the type of metal work I do. My...    less

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  Debra Montgomery Enameling on Hot rolled steel-
  I forgot about using cold rolled steel. I have hot rolled 10ga steel leaves all formed and cleaned and then realized my mistake. Is there any way to make hot rolled work? Is using the ground coat GC-16 sufficient or is...  moreEnameling on Hot rolled steel-
  I forgot about using cold rolled steel. I have hot rolled 10ga steel leaves all formed and cleaned and then realized my mistake. Is there any way to make hot rolled work? Is using the ground coat GC-16 sufficient or is there any way at all to just use the liquid enamel color with one firing and leave it at that?
  One of my concerns is if I have to now use ground coat then I will have to use a base coat before the color and then fire the color - so three firings. Will that cause another problem related to scale?
  Please note that these leaves have been heated in a forge, lightly formed and the top surface that will get the enamel has been ground/sanded down to a clean bright silver surface with no visible scale. Will this make a difference?
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  August 28, 2018 - edited
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  March 24, 2017
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  Debra Montgomery → Trish White:

  Thanks for the approval, Trish!  I just got back from Janly Jaggard's workshop in Richmond last week and am pretty excited on the possibilities of enameling with the metal work I already do, particularly torch firing and enamel on steel.  Looking

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  Thanks for the approval, Trish!  I just got back from Janly Jaggard's workshop in Richmond last week and am pretty excited on the possibilities of enameling with the metal work I already do, particularly torch firing and enamel on steel.  Looking forward to getting started on some things! 

   

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