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  • Member
    May 19, 2015 12:17 PM EDT

    Good afternoon

    I am making bird shaped brooches, around 4x6.6mm.  I cut out the shapes from 0.5mm copper, I counter enamel the back first with one coat.. then switch to the front and enamel with 3 or 4 coats.  I am finding that the flat shape is bending slightly outwards on the outside enamelled face... so that is is not perfectly flat.  How can I counteract this or is it just 'the nature of the beast' :)

    Thanks

    Fiona

  • Leader
    May 19, 2015 4:29 PM EDT

    If you are going to put 3 - 4 layers on top, you need more than 1 coat of  counter-enamel - Think  "Oreo cookie"  - chocolate cookie top and bottom are the enamels and the metal is the cream in the middle.

    You have a heavy top layer of enamels not equal to the bottom and there is a whole lot of movement going on as the glass and enamel heat and cool.  Always sift at least 2 layers of  counter - enamel on the bottom.

    The warping of the edges happens as the enamel layer melts , the metal softens and is drawn down by the weight of the enamel - thus  the edges bend up on the trivet. You can solve this problem by either turning the piece upside down on the next firing and if that does not help, use a flat steel block or old iron to press the piece flat when it comes out of the kiln. It should be flattened quickly before it cools. I have purchased old antique cast irons at flea markets and they make a great flattening tool.

  • Member
    May 19, 2015 4:46 PM EDT

    Thank you Trish...  over the past couple of hours I engaged my brain and wondered about putting another layer of counter enamel.. I will try tomorrow with 2 layers and see what happens. The idea of using an iron is brilliant... mine will go into my studio tomorrow... I dont believe in ironing anyway :) Taught both my sons from the age of 11 how to iron their shirts.. lol

  • Leader
    May 19, 2015 6:29 PM EDT

    Note:

    I would use an iron that does not have steam holes!

  • May 20, 2015 4:42 AM EDT

    small stamp stainless steel

  • Member
    May 20, 2015 5:38 AM EDT


    Another possibility is to form the pieces slightly convex. Convex side = sight-side. That makes the visual appearance a bit more pleasing and the piece more stable. Camber the piece before enamelling in a wooden dapping-block.

  • Member
    May 20, 2015 6:00 AM EDT

    That too is a good idea Edmund... I wonder why objects are more appealing if they are convex rather than concave.  Im sure there is a reason, I just haven't read it yet

  • Member
    May 20, 2015 8:47 AM EDT

     I would imagine that it is because convex objects make concessions to our spatial vision.

  • Member
    May 20, 2015 8:59 AM EDT

    Im sure you are correct, but its also a touch thing as well.. convex feels nicer than convex on a one dimensional object..  May I ask where you got your dapping block from please..  I am trying out a turned wooden salt pot to see if that will work :)

  • Member
    May 20, 2015 9:25 AM EDT

    I think, you are right too.

    Wooden dapping block: You can get it for example here: http://www.ottofrei.com/search.php?mode=search&page=1 .
    Or "google" under "Wooden Dapping block" and then have a look into the picture search. There you'll  will find many supplier.

    Edmund
    http://www.emailkunst.de